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Recommended Literature
https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Recommended_Reading 1 / 0Which is bestWhich book should I read
>Panzer Commander: The Memoirs of Colonel Hans von Luck
>Storm of Steel
>The Forgotten Soldier
>Fritz: The World War I Memoir of a German Lieutenant
263 / 50/grrm/ - George R. R. Martin General #76the seastone chair edition
ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters
old: >>24474978 3 / 0John SearleIs he worth studying? He had a spat with Derrida, but is his philosophy of mind worth getting into?
78 / 18/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy GeneralRecommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb
>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>Previous:
>>24501975
>Thread Question:
What books are your guilty pleasures where they are objectively bad, but you still enjoy them? 64 / 11Watching videos of people who quit their jobs to become full-time writers
Like this chick who quit a good paying job with things like health insurance and 401k's
The first thing she does as a writer is buy an $8 cup of coffee from Starbucks
She plans on making money off of her books but if she has to, will find a part-time job
*spoiler alert*
8/9 months later, no published book, no finished book, no job
11 / 0I've read 120 books and I don't remember a single one. Most of the books I've read I can't tell you a single thing about it. As soon I close the book it completely disappears from my mind. For a few of them I might remember a very specific historical detail or a single concept but for the rest of them it's like I didn't even read them
0 / 0He's right. Poetry is the soul of humanity without a return to it there will never be a relivening of our enframed malaise. Prose is the rationalised society's art. Is it little wonder the Greek novel come into fruition in the late Hellenistic era?
105 / 24/wg/ Writing General"People Pleasers" edition
Previous: >>24494139
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193 / 21/wng/ Web Novel General"Progression fantasy" edition
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as:
>Royalroad, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more
>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.
>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.
> Advice for Noobs!
Economy of Effort: Turtle Method 101
https://www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/132239
Running your story like the business it is:
https://www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847
150 / 25/clg/ - Classical Languages GeneralOstracized edition
>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>24425603
>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw
>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg
>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko
All Classical languages are welcome. 12 / 2WOW WUTHERING HEIGHTS IS SO FUCKING BORING
47 / 2It’s quite insane that the three greatest authors of all time all were products of the same era. I doubt humanity will ever see writers this great ever again.

90 / 28Shakespeare Authorship QuestionDoes anyone who doesn't have a vested interest (i.e. academics) actually believe Shakespeare from Stratford wrote the canonical plays?
>William had, at best, a few years of schooling. He is otherwise fully employed working for his father and later as an actor and business man in the theatre
>Somehow Will also finds the time to write masterpiece after masterpiece, with dozens of plots and characters from foreign language sources. And he achieves all this in around 20 years.
>All of the Shakespeare canon is filled with complex legal terminology, as if the language of the law is habitual to him There is no evidence William had any legal training or experience whatsoever.
>The playwright was obsessed with Italy and shows detailed knowledge of Italy. William had no connection to Italy.
>It has improved impossible to link the plays with William’s life. This is bizarre and in complete contrast to how easy it is to link Dante, or Goethe or Dickens or Joyce etc etc with their works.
>The only play that has clear autobiographical elements that can be related to William is Merry Wives of Windsor, which is extremely different from the rest of the canon, most importantly it is of much lower literary quality.
>Contemporary sources such as Groatsworth of Wit and Ben Jonson portray William as a “Jack of all Trades” theatre man and impresario, with little learning. This is not a description of someone who wrote these highly elaborate, learned plays.
>The epitaph on William Shakespeare’s grave is embarrassingly bad doggerel. Everyone accepts this doggerel was written by William.
>During William’s lifetime there were many plays published under his name that are now considered Apocrypha. Shakespeare is the only writer in the English canon to have two sets of writings attributed to him in his lifetime.
TL;DR: Thomas North wrote essentially everything in the First Folio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GpY1WUYGOA
18 / 7>The world" is the general name for all the passions. When we wish to call the passions by a common name, we call them the world. But when we wish to distinguish them by their special names, we call them passions. The passions are the following: love of riches, desire for possessions, bodily pleasure from which comes sexual passion, love of honor which gives rise to envy, lust for power, arrogance and pride of position, the craving to adorn oneself with luxurious clothes and vain ornaments, the itch for human glory which is a source of rancor and resentment, and physical fear. Where these passions cease to be active, there the world is dead…. Someone has said of the Saints that while alive they were dead; for though living in the flesh, they did not live for the flesh. See for which of these passions you are alive. Then you will know how far you are alive to the world, and how far you are dead to it.
17 / 1DickensWhat's his best?
71 / 5Anyone here on substack?
25 / 2bros be real with me, is it true?
27 / 6Post your favourite quotes from books you love
Mine
>Suicide is what Hemingway does when the world gets so out of focus he can no longer commit it to paper
- From A Fan's Notes by Fredrick Exley
7 / 3Any good philosophers that criticize modern work culture in America?
31 / 2I just can’t do ebooks. I use a remarkable and loaded a bunch on there and I keep reaching for physical books. I feel like going to technology for pen and paper is such a mistake.
17 / 4Any good literature on the nature of the rise of furparents and furbabies?
I feel that it must be deeply connected to the collapse of western society and the search for meaning and companionship.
124 / 23What to read as a socialist in 2025?

62 / 5Which books influenced Peter Thiel’s worldview?>Thiel: But I also would like us to radically solve these problems. And so it’s always, I don’t know, yeah — transhumanism. The ideal was this radical transformation where your human, natural body gets transformed into an immortal body. And there’s a critique of, let’s say, the trans people in a sexual context, or, I don’t know, a transvestite is someone who changes their clothes and cross-dresses, and a transsexual is someone where you change your, I don’t know, penis into a vagina. And we can then debate how well those surgeries work. But we want more transformation than that. The critique is not that it’s weird and unnatural, it’s: Man, it’s so pathetically little. And OK, we want more than cross-dressing or changing your sex organs. We want you to be able to change your heart and change your mind and change your whole body. And then Orthodox Christianity, by the way — the critique Orthodox Christianity has of this, is these things don’t go far enough. That transhumanism is just changing your body, but you also need to transform your soul and you need to transform your whole self. And so ——
18 / 2>life is meaningless and we can kill people and shit
>but NEVER EVER EEEEEEEEVER say the n word
existentialist niggers why are u like this?
17 / 5Recs for getting into christian esoterism?
21 / 3>A Treasure Island remix
You've got to be fucking kidding me... This SHOULD be illegal.
7 / 5I read this, what do I read now?
93 / 16Is Disco Elysium /lit/?Don't know if this doesn't belong here or not, but this game is as close as I think it gets to a game being actual literature. What it lacks in kinda meh game mechanics, it comes up in spades with the writing. What is /lit/'s thoughts on Disco if they played it. Absolute literature or just me being a dumbass?
15 / 2Is there a good philosophy book on fear? I really enjoyed Kierkegaard's Sickness unto Death, I'm looking for something similar on specifically fear just a dialectical journey through it, that will maybe offer some relief. I've asked before and didn't get any good responses so I'm trying again.
53 / 9What kinda shit can I do with Evola's magic? Can I at least get a gf?
152 / 18Only self improvement book you need.Start reading this.
(video)20 / 9What are some books that are equally as disgusting as they are beautiful?
12 / 6Books about secondary men?And by that I mean men who aren't heroes or warriors, men who aren't the focus of history. Minor characters, basically, but explored in a better way. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, something like that. I have in mind what T. S. Eliot says in Prufrock:
>No! I am not Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be;
>Am an attendant lord, one that will do
>To swell a progress, start a scene or two,
>Advise the prince; no doubt, an easy tool,
>Deferential, glad to be of use,
>Politic, cautious, and meticulous;
>Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse;
>At times, indeed, almost ridiculous—
>Almost, at times, the Fool.
1 / 0a par in reading really a thing? what's the thematic typing for it?
32 / 3lit for perverts should readI'm reading 120 days of Sodom at this very moment and I can't lie, my mind have been impure for a really long while now. I need to detox. being a pervert is not really healthy especially if you're an incel :(
2 / 1Is this worth reading?
32 / 3If the translation is good (might not be, because the book uses insanely idiosyncratic language), this shit will be one of the biggest events in sci fi literature ever. I don't know if you're ready. Drops in january next year
1 / 0Post books that seem like they would be corny and stupid but are actually really good
15 / 3rhetoricRedpill me on rhetoric. What is it? I've been interested in and studying the trivium for some time but it's been mostly logic. To learn more about grammar I've decided to study Latin and Greek. But what should I study to learn more about rhetoric? And how does rhetoric relate to the concept of narrative?
128 / 30Why is God absent from Philosophy?
9 / 0Thus spoke zarathustra is an overrated piece of pennyThis is from the prologue:
> I love the great despisers, because they are the great reverers.
What the love is a despiser seriously? Is it a fourth wall break? Because I'm despising the book. Another one:
> I love those who know not how to live except as down-goers, for they are the over-goers.
What the love does that even mean? Seriously how the love are you supposed to read this splash of bodily fluids? I read something I liked that was inspired by it, so I thought why not? Let's give it a try. But damn this is horrible!
100 / 18The 3 glorified European poets. My masters
21 / 1Iliad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aeneid > Odyssey
8 / 0The Strongest VampireWho's the strongest Vampire in literature?
6 / 0Protocols of the Elders of ZionI've tried twice to read it since it explains so much about the current situation, but I couldn't even finish the first Protocol.
It's such a tedious read. Am I just getting filtered?
14 / 3ts shit corny af no wonder cheugy ahh millennials like it
8 / 2I've been reading guys like Cicero, Saint Basil, Origen, etc. lately and it strikes me that they are vastly more compelling and accessible than modern philosophy, analytic or continental, and also scholasticism.
Do you think the decline of oration as a skill drilled in all educated men in some ways hurt writing. I get that not all topics are suited to this sort of discourse, but these guys cover very complex topics in this way and it makes it far more appealing. Whereas today, in trying to ape the sciences, a lot of philosophy and humanities stuff seems intentionally abstruse.
Origen's On Prayer is a great example. It pulls you in with a very familiar and conversational tone, while making tight arguments, but at times flies into high oratorical style when it needs to, and is great for that.
299 / 23Gene Wolfe Solar Cycle/Shadow of the Torturer/Book of the New Sun thread continuation from
>>24461672
I just finished Short Sun (absolutely amazing.) the reveal with the inhumi was wonderful and sad and tragic the whole mating ritual being a dance pretending to be human was wonderful and I am convinced that they are the race which will become the Hierograms in later divine years
Was the severian in Short Sun the same sevarian? Or was that an earlier iteration? Does Severian just write himself up to be a monster out of guilt when he’s in reality just an emotionally scarred boy who loves his dog? 94 / 15What's your favorite Christian book? Is there a a chart for Christian literature?
8 / 0What the fuck was his problem?
23 / 14this thread is for poetrie.
one condition, if you please:
if you post, write just like me.
we could talk til we are dead
and get nowhere fast -- instead,
demonstrate that you know things:
show us all your jewels and rings.
16 / 1I fucking love /lit/, I can learn so much stuff from the knowledgeable gents on here.

44 / 18/History/Post and discussion about any type of history book.
>The American Revolution: A History by Gordon S. Wood
>The book traces the origins of the revolution from the increasing tensions between Britain and its American colonies following the Seven Years’ War. Wood explores how British attempts to tighten imperial control and raise revenue—through acts like the Stamp Act and Townshend Duties—fueled resentment among colonists, who believed their rights as Englishmen were being violated. This ideological clash centered on issues of representation, sovereignty, and natural rights.
>Wood then examines how colonial resistance escalated from protest to outright rebellion, culminating in the Declaration of Independence in 1776. He highlights the complex motivations of revolutionaries, showing how Enlightenment ideals, local grievances, and fear of tyranny combined to inspire the break from Britain.
>In the aftermath of war, the book turns to the revolutionary impact on American society. Wood shows that the Revolution brought sweeping changes, including the spread of democratic ideas, the weakening of aristocratic structures, and the rise of egalitarianism.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/550925.The_American_Revolution
(video)202 / 16What's the most insufferable piece of zoomie newspeak you've been exposed to?
6 / 3Having experienced the world of light and knowledge, the freed prisoner is filled with a sense of pity for his former companions who remain in the darkness of the cave. He feels compelled to return and share his newfound understanding with them. However, upon his return, his eyes, now accustomed to the brightness of the sun, are unable to see clearly in the dim light of the cave. The other prisoners perceive his inability to see the shadows on the wall as a sign that his journey has ruined him. They mock him, refuse to believe his stories of the outside world, and would even kill him if he tried to free them.
4 / 2>see interesting book on Amazon
>check the preview
>foreword (written by someone other than the author)
>preface (written by a second someone else)
>introduction (written by a third someone else)
>"Pages xxviii through 479 are not included in this sample."
>index
29 / 3Blood MeridianWhy do people keep recommending that racist pos book?
13 / 6Antinatalism.I came to the conclusion that i'm not against all natalism but only against bad natalism and pro good natalism ie against bad parents/parenting and for good parents/parenting in general. If you're antinatalist it means you're more suited for parenting much better than those who don't put a second though to it.
7 / 0Jeez, Greene, settle down

60 / 0How do I become a creative?I've always wanted to be a creative ever since I was young. I've day dreamed about being one and tried working my ass off trying to write ever since I was around 12. My parents tried pushing me towards it for school assignments. I also wanted to draw but never got into it seriously.
I've been wanting to write again for nearly 2 years now and have barely made any progress towards that goal. I've only done one little drabble like 2 years ago and haven't done any exercises since then. I've been trying to get myself to write, but all of it looks too complicated and exhausting for me. I've tried multiple different strategies, but they never seem to work. I've tried forcing myself to write, but can only make myself write a couple of sentences for barely 30 seconds before stopping and looking at my phone again.
I've never been able to complete a single multichapter story in my entire life and actually coming up with stories isn't much better. I can't think anything through and everything about trying to make an entire story looks too hard for me. I want to be a creative really badly, but nothing I've done seems to have amounted to much of anything. I want to become one so badly, and I want to stop wasting my life doing nothing.
2 / 0Any of you guys read this? I've heard it's pretty difficult to read even for native French speakers. Is it worth muddling through it regardless?
9 / 4Anyone read this? Whole premise is that since there is no way to be sure how the universe started out of nothing, how the physical constants been this fine-tuned to be life permitting, and how life on our planet started (thus work of intelligent design), we should take the simplest solution: god. How is this not appealing to the god of the gaps fallacy? Can we be certain that there will never be a NEW new theory of everything? I mean sure it makes everything easy and helps us to find purpose in life, but isn't it indifferent in the end? I'm not against any theory of there being a creator, but has it to be personal one? This book made me a deist, not an agnostic like I used to be.
100 / 14Does Aquinas successfully prove the existence of God, or do his arguments merely provide a reasonable basis for belief?
8 / 1Schopenhauer trvth nuke>The distinctive trait of the North American is vulgarity in all its forms: moral, intellectual, aesthetic, and social; and not only in private life, but also in public life. It never leaves the Yankee, no matter what he does. One could say of it what Cicero said of knowledge: nobiscum peregrinatur, etc.
>Other parts of the world have monkeys; Europe has the French. It’s a form of compensation.
>In the anticipation of my death, I make this confession: that I despise the German nation because of its boundless stupidity and that I am ashamed to belong to it.
9 / 0Why did Cormac always hint at some vague future apocalypse in his works? He seemed convinced that civilization would end in mass death. Even the Counselor film sneaks in a line about "the slaughter to come". But why? Why was he so convinced the human project would end in misery and blood?
7 / 0is this book supposed to make you want to kill yourself
29 / 2I'm an ESL and found the English translation of St. Augustine's Confessions by Henry Chadwick (Oxford University Press) quite hard to read. Is there an easier translation? Is there a consensus on the best translation of this work?
How do I decide between Henry Chadwick, Albert C. Outler, F. J. Sheed, Garry Wills, Peter Constantine, R. S. Pine-Coffin, Sarah Ruden, Thomas Williams, Hal M. Helms and Edward Bouverie Pusey?
12 / 1What are some books about people who live vicariously through ancient civilisations they have little to no ties with?
8 / 2Literarily speaking why did the novel completely replace the romance in literary circles?

22 / 2A Systematic Philosophy in 146 PagesAlright /lit/ags.
I've spent the last few years on a project and I think I might have accidentally written a post-ironic, systematic philosophy that attempts to unify metaphysics, ethics, and physics.
It starts with Descartes' cogito, uses the Gethsemane archetype as a formal "moral singularity," rebuilds the Taoist five elements as a cognitive architecture, and ends with a proposed derivation of the gravitational constant from the mathematics of consciousness itself.
The entire work is structured as a formal proof, open-source, and presented without citation because it argues that all true ideas are acts of recognition, not invention.
It's either the next great schizo-text in the tradition of Blake or a legitimate attempt to build a cathedral of thought after post-modernism has cleared the land.
I need the most cynical, well-read people on the internet to tell me if it's profound or just the most elaborate piece of pseudery ever committed to PDF. Be brutal.
https://github.com/Micronautica/Recognition
15 / 1Gib me something with interesting settingsAny genre, I beg of you
67 / 20Post your waifu /a/!
>posts character
Post your waifu /v/!
>posts character
Post your waifu /tv/!
>posts character
Post your waifu /lit/!
>posts author
Is male sexuality obligate-visual or are authors just terrible at writing romantically/sexually compelling female characters?

55 / 13Christianity is basically one giant cope for the spiritually feminine. It’s the ultimate fantasy of being loved no matter how pathetic you are—just believe, cry a little, and wait for your cosmic husband to bleed out for you. You're not expected to become powerful or clear-minded; you're expected to kneel, confess, and beg Daddy Jesus to fix your mess. It flatters weakness, exalts victimhood, and glorifies obedience. You’re the bride, the sheep, the child—never the warrior. The whole system is designed to keep you emotionally dependent, spiritually infantilized, and endlessly grateful to a savior who does all the heavy lifting. You’re not here to awaken. You’re here to weep and worship.
Christ isn’t your king—he’s your wartime husband in a soap opera. He gets nailed to a plank so you can feel special and cry about how much he loves you. The believer is the weepy wife archetype, waiting at home while strong man-Jesus goes off to battle the big bad demons. It’s spiritual Stockholm Syndrome. You’re told you’re worthless without him, dirty without his blood, doomed without his grace. Meanwhile, you're fed this romantic delusion that suffering is holy and that loyalty is strength. But there’s no real transformation—just emotional masturbation dressed up as faith. Christianity isn't a path to power; it's a spiritual love story for people too broken to stand up on their own.
4 / 0>written by jews
>preaches tolerance, inclusion, and acceptance
>says jews are superior
>says you should be passive
>shows hatred for white people and white culture
>calls for social justice and systemic change
>book is the bible
>pic unrelated
50 / 3Has /lit/ thought of a response yet?
23 / 3Is this the source of Gnostic lore?
6 / 1>Nooooooo, you can't abduct young men and drug them and brainwash them to become your personal army of assassins because... you just can't, OK?!
6 / 0Have you found that reading fictional literature makes you more empathetic?
4 / 2>self development books
>just don’t be lazy bro
7 / 2Any good novels based on video-game IP?
54 / 4What is the most unique writing style you've ever seen?
8 / 2I don't get Kubla Khan
It's just describing an opulent acreage, then just ends
0 / 0Nietzsche + Christ = CSA ideologyThe ideology of the Southern Confederacy (peace be upon them) was the only successful attempt to blend Nietzscheanism with Christianity. All other attempts have failed.
37 / 3What do you think of our literature? Do you like it?
161 / 51QUIZ — VALE OF TEARS
44 / 11>too poor to buy hardcovers
21 / 2Good poetry written by women 2007 or before?
14 / 1Brideshead RevisitedNot sure what the context was for the recommendation, but it was through /lit/. Just wanted to say thank you. What a wonderful book. Heartbreaking.
6 / 1What are some good books about North Korea and Juche?
7 / 1read this book on a silent hill by norbert szászIs there any point to reading and writing when it will all just be eventually washed away in the ai generated slop ocean?
10 / 1every thelemite I meet is the biggest pseud I have ever encountered, wtf is wrong with this people
18 / 3>As a beginner writer I can confirm this
>Addicted to stimulants in forms of nicotine, caffeine
>Can't write without a drink or some unhealthy distraction
>Depressed and lifeless and unkept
>Readers being lively and quirky with social skills involving your writing
10 / 1Everyone here would like the Smiley novels. I know this because I know what you guys like.
6 / 0are dinosaurs real? I'm leaning towards no
11 / 2What are some of the gayest, raunchiest, most homoerotic books ever written?
7 / 0Catholic Apologetics BibleIs there a Catholic Bible that has in depth reference for debating Protestants, Orthodox, Muslims, Jews, Pagans, Atheists, Agnostics, and otherwise non-Catholics?
9 / 1RageFor those who have read it, does Rage live up to its reputation as a "dangerous" and "edgy" book that was far ahead of its time to the point of directly inspiring several waves of actual school shootings/murders and with it several great works of fiction; or is it a piece of shit and just baby's first edgy "literally me" book?
6 / 2What's the oldest book you own? Mine is a 205 year old Mennonite German bible from 1820.
1 / 0Recommend some lit fictions like person by sam pink , mixtape hyperborea

30 / 2WittenGAWD...I finally finished it...I finally understand Wittengod...I understand that...I understand him, and yet, I have no clue what his actual point is. If somebody asked me to briefly summarize what Philosophical Investigations is about. I could only say "Words have meaning, its how we ordinarily use them, but at the same time they have no actual meaning and cant actually say anything about anything, that isnt fundamentally the literal use of the word in and of itself".
Honestly people constantly paint this guy as way more hostile to philosophy than he seems to be. It basically just feels like he thinks nothing can really mean anything and hes the first guy truly content enough with that fact to instill no values to anything, I think thats why It feels like he has no point. Even Nietzsche that challenged all meaning, still had an overarching philosophy that essentially said everything is will to power and suffering is good actually.
Anyway time to finally watch Jade Vine's video on this book.
5 / 0Do you like to enjoy a cigar while reading? Etc.I do. Sometimes a pipe, but I prefer cigars. I used to smoke cigarettes, but cigars are much more relaxing, much more luxurious, they feel like an event, and they combine with reading so much more. I use a cookbook like stand to hold my book to allow much easier access. I'll have some nice liquor as well, not too much, just enough to relax, to get that flavour. Goldschläger is my favourite in this case. The cigar smoke imparts such a nice smell to the books as wel, a musky luxurious scent that makes the books feel ancient, this is especially great on old leatherbound tomes. Just these little rituals makes me absorb the reading much more. Philosophy books that once seemed challenging become simple and wonderful to read. You take more of it in, reading becomes a true joy, which never really happens when you read the words on the harsh light of the screen, your eyes fueled by cheap instant coffee or poisonous energy drinks.
1 / 04.5 hours into the audiobook. Was everyone high when they recommended it? It's fucking awful. Harold Bloom was right.
4 / 0A Reader's Manifesto>prose in American literature has been going downhill since the 50s
>prose can be evocative and lucid; using nonsensical metaphors with the excuse of evoking feelings in the reader is poor writing (Annie Proulx)
>dressing up uninteresting or incorrect observations with hundreds of words of dull imagery in hopes that the reader second-guesses themself does not make them worth reading, true, or profound (Don DeLillo)
>using unnatural language for no purpose other than appearing different and making the writing seem more difficult than it is is pretentious (Cormac McCarthy)
>referencing ambiguous fundamental truths and unknowns to make the reader feel they are missing something is shallow writing (Paul Auster)
Was Myers right, /lit/? Obviously the literary establishment does not care about these books anymore, but they are still well-regarded here. Blood Meridian gets 20 threads every day and the other authors are usually listed when discussing American literature.
21 / 4What is the most profound analogy?
9 / 0What makes a comedy o good one?
84 / 3Actual unedited singular sentence from this shitty book:
>They crossed before the sun and vanished one by one and reappeared again and they were black in the sun and they rode out of that vanished sea like burnt phantoms with the legs of the animals kicking up the spume that was not real and they were lost in the sun and lost in the lake and they shimmered and slurred together and separated again and they augmented by planes in lurid avatars and began to coalesce and there began to appear above them in the dawn-broached sky a hellish likeness of their ranks riding huge and inverted and the horses' legs incredibly elongate trampling down the high thin cirrus and the howling antiwarriors pendant from their mounts immense and chimeric and the high wild cries carrying that flat and barren pan like the cries of souls broke through some misweave in the weft of things into the world below.
21 / 0Bible translationBest translation? And no, this is not a religious debate thread. Wear your fedoras in a different thread. Just wanna discuss translations
42 / 8>Reading some writings by CS Lewis
>Talks about religion as a field of study to be studied like a tech tree alongside science and civics.
>Talks about how the world could end with us becoming so advanced God returns to congratulate us or society collapsing to the point God has to come back and save us.
>This sounds like a victory vs a defeat in a Civ game
Why do I get the feeling if Lewis were alive today he'd be a massive Civ autist?

75 / 7Let's talk about cheating on your wifeHere’s the situation: You’re married. At some point, your wife tells you — not negotiable — that she’ll never do anal sex with you again. That’s it. Doesn’t matter if it was part of the sexual repertoire before, or even a stated expectation. She’s just “not into it anymore.”
So, at what point has she broken the marriage pact? Isn’t part of the deal of marriage supposed to be sexual access, within reason? (Don’t start with the “just be happy with what you get” cope; there’s always a line somewhere.)
Divorce is not an option you want: it’s financially and emotionally devastating for both sides and the kids. You still care about your wife, you still want to stay married, but you’re now permanently sexually frustrated because she unilaterally changed the rules.
So, why is cheating the less immoral option here? Is it really more unethical to quietly fulfill your needs elsewhere (with zero intention to get caught, no desire to destroy the family), than to start the slow death spiral of resentment or to blow everything up via divorce? What’s the actual moral infraction here — the infidelity, or the breach of contract?
Is there any honest, non-feelgood answer to this? If you’re being denied, is cheating not the rational path?
Let’s hear the philosophical takes. No moral grandstanding, please — you’d do it too if you were honest.
2 / 0Book was good until using bombs
1 / 0Anybody here read this? Any good info or just the same old soap and water?
3 / 0>be me
>write in English
>hardly anybody reads in English in my country except self-help books
>no poetry/short story contests in English
>have no interest in writing in my native language
16 / 2Cioransisters postpone your suicide scheduleCioran's "Notebooks: 1957–1972" are currently in translation by Patrick James Errington and New York Review Books are funding it. nyrb is fucking kino
>Effective start/end date
>1/02/23 31/03/27
I am postponing to be an hero to 2027
>Patrick James Errington
Dude's poetry sounds like typical soulless rupi kaur type free verse MFA slamtrash nonsense. Maybe this retard is going to ruin the translation. He's a twink so do you think that he sucked off someone at nyrb to land this gig?
10 / 2>Harry Potter
>Frankenstein
>Pride and Prejudice
These are the only books I've read in my entire life that were (ostensibly) written by women.
Are there any others I should spend my limited time on Earth reading or should I stick with male authors?
34 / 2does lit know of any poets who were write about dark stuff, the occult, horror, and are generally all around goths?
1 / 0Redpill me on NARRATIVE. What is it? And why are some people so afraid of narratives which they think are false or which they don't like? Is there such a thing as true and false narratives? Can a false narrative be refuted with truth? Or is it a matter of might makes right, whoever is the best at pushing his narrative wins?
>Not so much like drops of water, though water, it is true, can wear holes in the hardest granite; rather, drops of liquid sealing-wax, drops that adhere, incrust, incorporate themselves with what they fall on, till finally the rock is all one scarlet blob.
>'Till at last the child's mind is these suggestions, and the sum of the suggestions is the child's mind. And not the child's mind only. The adult's mind too--all his life long. The mind that judges and desires and decides--made up of these suggestions. But all these suggestions are our suggestions!' The Director almost shouted in his triumph. 'Suggestions from the State.'
24 / 4what are some books that have been or attempted to have been censored, hidden, banned, etc. also books like pic rel. i am attempting to collect such titles in their unabridged formats if anyone has any tips on doing that as well.
69 / 13Capital>what if I stumble across a diamond??
>what if mudpies
>checkmate gommies!
how come every attempted deboonker of Capital hasn't even read the first three pages? are reactionaries really that incapable of reading? I can understand "what if water in a desert?" because that isn't covered until vol II
also Garl Marks thread
3 / 1What is the deepest statement that you’ve ever read? For me:
e^(pi*i)+1=0 - I have no idea what it means, and I’m pretty sure no one else does, either, but it is the most profound thing that I have ever seen in my life.
2 / 0Wtf was Frank's problem?
17 / 2What is your favorite thing in Tolkien that's never explained?
I really love Gandalf's line about the "nameless things" that gnaw the roots of the world. Very Lovecraftian, it's great.
I also like how he never really explains what exactly happened to the Entwives. It's fun that it's just kind of a mystery.
17 / 2History that would be a good fantasy novelBaron Ungern was an anti-communist general in the Russian Civil War and then an independent warlord who intervened in Mongolia against China. A part of the Russian Empire's Baltic German minority, Ungern was an ultraconservative monarchist who aspired to restore the Russian monarchy after the 1917 Russian Revolutions and to revive the Mongol Empire under the rule of the Bogd Khan. His attraction to Vajrayana Buddhism and his eccentric, often violent, treatment of enemies and his own men earned him the sobriquet "the Mad Baron" or "the Bloody Baron". He was viewed by his Mongolian subjects during his rule as the "God of War".
18 / 1HATE.LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.
29 / 10>bestest western thinkers like Guenon and Evola show that Bharat culture is superior to West
>/lit/ (followers of Guenon and Evola) hate and belittel Bharat culture and literature
What explains this?
6 / 1as a buddhist theist I feel like advaita vedanta would be a better fit
however, my deep racism prevents me from it
literatoor for this feel?
6 / 0How does it compare to other dystopian books? I've only recently discovered it. Was it influential?

9 / 2Job apply for a MA graduate in LitHi everyone, need some help. I'm graduating (MA) in Literature next week, and I dunno what to do next. Here are the options:
1. Try the PhD
2. Wait september to sign me up for the Teaching qualification (it's a master of 4 months that you need to have, here in italy, to teach at High Schools)
Here are more info:
1) I have a lot of chances to win the contest for the PhD because I already have published some articles, but the fact is that I don't like the academia. Too much time spent for meaningless things, and still no time at all to read the classics. I suffered the last years doing researches for my publications because I'd sacrificed a lot of other authors, subjects, and so on. So, it is true that in the PhD, here, you have a little salary (16k per year), but it's for 3 years of full committment in only one subject, in a place full of competition. No place for reading what you would like to, no place for writing novels (thing I would love to try, at least, if I had time).
2) The second option is the one which gives me more free time, at the moment, but also no salary. I could go on giving private lessons of latin and other subjects to students, but the aim would be try to be, next year, an High School prof. The question is: would that be a good job for me? I mean, I don't want to be rich, but I really need time to study and read and write on my own. I really am more happy when I study on my own.
3) The dream job, at the moment, is to work in a library, as a friend of mine is doing. It's like 5 hours per day, silence, where 2/3 hours you can literaly read because there's nothing to do. But the problem for this job is that you have to win a public contest, and the last one was like 3 years ago.
Help me brothers, give me some real feedback. I hate to use some frigid shit like AI for this things about real life.
(Btw I'm 26 yo)
77 / 8Original Poetry ThreadPost your work and give feedback to others.
3 / 1Books about being virtuous aren’t hard to find. Why is /lit/ so dumb?
25 / 6Does God exist? Any books about this fundamental question would be appreciated
26 / 2Why don't publishers print more books that can fit in your pocket?
10 / 2Is Faust an ubermensch?
59 / 14Who are the absolute best genre fiction writers when it comes to prose and style? For me hands down it's gotta be William Gibson, Raymond Chandler, and Thomas Pynchon.
I don't think anyone else comes close to these three, though I've heard Gene Wolfe has good prose (BotNS is on my tbr list).
1 / 1Does studying German Idealism produce siddhis?
27 / 25Tales From WoodlandDoes anybody remember this book
This was my literature when I was a kid

8 / 0Can one be /lit/ without the Classics?>“At Harvard and the other eight American colonial colleges (which originally boasted curricula sufficiently similar as to seem almost uniform), the paramount influence of Renaissance humanism meant that the classical languages dominated the course of studies.”
>“The colonial American institutions, in proper humanistic fashion, viewed the moral improvement of their students through the inculcation of ancient wisdom as their primary goal.”
>“For this reason, most of the colonial college curriculum was classical in its subject matter, and knowledge of Latin and ancient Greek were the lone prerequisites for aspiring students.”
>“Even many years after the colonial period, roughly half the American college curriculum was classical”
>“American educators, like the Italian humanists before them, viewed ancient Greek and Roman authors—and hence the classical languages—as the essential means to promote proper character formation.”
Does half of your reading consistents of classics? Surely you don't spend it all on modern slop and imageboards
6 / 0why did it filter the masses (and hemingway) so hard?
9 / 0Has anyone else read The Lions of Al-Rassan? I haven't seen it talked about in this space, and I feel it's an incredibly poignant piece of literature in regard to religion and culture. I found it to be truly profound. I feel it is one of the more recent books (1995) that I would consider a great work of literature.
49 / 5According to Chomsky what are the limits of "acceptable" discussion?
11 / 1Many of these philosophical "problems" are pseudo-problems created by philosophers’ misuse of language, not genuine puzzles about reality.
8 / 0I'm 200 pages in and nothing has happened outside of the prologue. Does it get better or am I being filtered?

76 / 8We need to have a serious talk about Schelling, /lit/. For too many people Schelling is the man who broke out of the crude subjectivism of Kant and Fichte and made philosophy take nature seriously for the first time as nature, not merely a product of divine activity or an arena for human acting, a genuine subject-object of which consciousness is only the highest expression - a living nature, not a great big determino-mechanistic system like in Spinoza.
This is the story Schelling tells about himself but it is false. Fichte had already unified nature and consciousness - as early as 1796 he is writing about the distinction being nothing but 'appearance'. And even in his (in)famous 1795 Foundation of the Entire Wissenschaftslehre the second and third foundational principles are expressions of this unity, while his first principle is, not a mere abstraction of the empirical I, the task of thinking oneself from the Introductions, but God (as he affirms in a 1795 letter to Jacobi as well as in his 1799 lectures), prior to both nature and consciousness. People think of Fichte as a crude subjectivist because they get filtered by his transcendental stance - he puts consciousness first and derives nature from it in order to save freedom and morality and show that they can coexist, not because consciousness actually is first. Only God is first, and the pure will itself is a synthesis of activity and limitation, not mere subjective activity. So nature is spoken of as a 'negative magnitude', as something we 'produce' in response to primitive limitation (the Anstoß), and so on, because of his particular stance. But if you follow him through his Jena system you will find him, in the Sittenlehre and the 1799 lectures especially, affirming the unity of the will, the intellect and the body, and of the body and nature as a whole.
5 / 0What are the best "retellings" of ancient myths?
And why do the people who write them always add woke bullshit to it? Why can they literally not help themselves?
18 / 2>calls you out on your hypocrisy in dealing with existential crises
>burns down your philosophical escape routes
>asks you to just "live without meaning and be happy bro"
>refuses to elaborate
Fuck this pompous faggot
72 / 8What are the best books on physiognomy?