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20 / 8Is their market share going up or down now that ruger, smith and wesson and savage are getting in on the lever action game? It's weird how suddenly a bunch of companies want to put out lever guns
159 / 33It is claimed that this photo shows a Ukrainian Flamingo missile with a 3000 km range
https://xcancel.com/mil_in_ua/status/1957158079986032734#m
https://xcancel.com/mil_in_ua/statu
121 / 45/gq/ - Gear Queer - Tactical Gear General ThreadPost Gear, Discuss Gear
Solid, quality gear edition. (No 5.5 pound facemasks, lol.)
Old: >>64081660
Solid, quality gear edition. (No 5.5 pound facemasks, lol.)
Old: >>64081660
8 / 1Why didn't the army just buy more MK-17's and issue those?I think we all know by now the choice to make the sig spear our new standard weapon is retarded. But with their line of thought and reasoning, why not just issue everyone the SCAR-H? Yeah issuing it to everyone would be a bitch on logistics, but it makes more sense than making a new rifle and caliber altogether, because either way it's gonna be a mess issuing them to everyone.
The SCAR is battle proven, reliable, highly modular, and fits literally all of the criteria set for the sig spear but better. Because we already have a fuck ton of 762 NATO
Better yet, just field it to SOF only.
The SCAR is battle proven, reliable, highly modular, and fits literally all of the criteria set for the sig spear but better. Because we already have a fuck ton of 762 NATO
Better yet, just field it to SOF only.
99 / 14Of all the agencies out there, who gets the best loadout? Secret Service, FBI, CIA, US Marshals, etc
202 / 56Canadian firearms General - CFG>New here? Read this:
https://pastebin.com/Ndb2jSAu
https://howtogetagun.ca/
>What was banned Dec 5th 2024?
https://pastebin.com/CB69hUn0
>Want to hunt? CFG Hunting license info:
https://pastebin.com/nC8RpYb3
>Want to buy something? Recommended /cangen/ vendors list (patched 04.25.2024):
https://pastebin.com/enRiU8JC
>Want to help firearm rights?
https://www.givesendgo.com/sccfirearms
https://nfa.ca/
Previous >>64114390
https://pastebin.com/Ndb2jSAu
https://howtogetagun.ca/
>What was banned Dec 5th 2024?
https://pastebin.com/CB69hUn0
>Want to hunt? CFG Hunting license info:
https://pastebin.com/nC8RpYb3
>Want to buy something? Recommended /cangen/ vendors list (patched 04.25.2024):
https://pastebin.com/enRiU8JC
>Want to help firearm rights?
https://www.givesendgo.com/sccfirea
https://nfa.ca/
Previous >>64114390
16 / 6Trauma FAKs for the Tactical LoadoutWhat are some good companies that sell quality Trauma First Aid Kits (FAKS) and some good Individual FAKS. I know two good companies:
>My Medic
>Refuge Medical
Individual IFAKs are not designed for mass casualty trauma care, but instead for one individual. The larger kits, however, can treat multiple people who are wounded by a gunshot. Multiple tourniquets will be required, preferably ones with a windless rod clip. An IFAK is a good addition to your tactical kit when you are shooting rounds down range or when SHTF. It is also a good addition to have when you are hiking or out hunting. If you have medical experience, and have the drive to save lives, I do recommend some mass casualty kits that can be found online. In the event of an active shooting, the first objective is to neutralize the shooter, if he’s still alive or surrenders without getting shot, restrain him. Apply first aid to the belligerent and await First responders to come to the scene. They will take the injured shooter to the Hospital where he will be treated for gunshot wounds. When he is discharged into police custody, he will go to jail to await his trial for shooting up a place, which will, in the future, be considered another act of domestic terrorism.
When you get your IFAK, learn its contents and if necessary, modify it with your own additions. Learned the MARCHE algorithm and learn how to treat gunshot victims with care under fire. Learn TCCC (Tactical Combat Casualty Care). There are dummies that can be purchased for the use of practicing field medical care. Trauma FAKS are an essential item to purchase, and it is up to you, the armed citizen, to find the right TFAK/IFAK that works for you.
>My Medic
>Refuge Medical
Individual IFAKs are not designed for mass casualty trauma care, but instead for one individual. The larger kits, however, can treat multiple people who are wounded by a gunshot. Multiple tourniquets will be required, preferably ones with a windless rod clip. An IFAK is a good addition to your tactical kit when you are shooting rounds down range or when SHTF. It is also a good addition to have when you are hiking or out hunting. If you have medical experience, and have the drive to save lives, I do recommend some mass casualty kits that can be found online. In the event of an active shooting, the first objective is to neutralize the shooter, if he’s still alive or surrenders without getting shot, restrain him. Apply first aid to the belligerent and await First responders to come to the scene. They will take the injured shooter to the Hospital where he will be treated for gunshot wounds. When he is discharged into police custody, he will go to jail to await his trial for shooting up a place, which will, in the future, be considered another act of domestic terrorism.
When you get your IFAK, learn its contents and if necessary, modify it with your own additions. Learned the MARCHE algorithm and learn how to treat gunshot victims with care under fire. Learn TCCC (Tactical Combat Casualty Care). There are dummies that can be purchased for the use of practicing field medical care. Trauma FAKS are an essential item to purchase, and it is up to you, the armed citizen, to find the right TFAK/IFAK that works for you.
246 / 30>Go head first vs someone with a knife
>Hur I’m a big guy/I know MMA
>Gets literally stabbed in the neck and dies
What causes this phenomenon?
>Hur I’m a big guy/I know MMA
>Gets literally stabbed in the neck and dies
What causes this phenomenon?
47 / 4Drone doctrineIs anyone competent developing combined arms doctrine including drones yet?
They have the potential to greatly improve the capabilities of offensive land operations.
Ukraine is static trench warfare with nigger-rigged poverty systems.
Imagine what can be done with properly integrated drone systems.
Imagine modern blitzkrieg supported by sensor-fusioned drone intel and overwhelming numbers of rapid drone strikes from mobile command centers.
They have the potential to greatly improve the capabilities of offensive land operations.
Ukraine is static trench warfare with nigger-rigged poverty systems.
Imagine what can be done with properly integrated drone systems.
Imagine modern blitzkrieg supported by sensor-fusioned drone intel and overwhelming numbers of rapid drone strikes from mobile command centers.
125 / 27Yearly Polish military parade in Warsaw in 5 days (Aug 15th as always, commemorating the victory against the bolsheviks in the Battle of Warsaw in 1920), which the Poles call "defilada" featuring F-35s, this time with coinciding with a naval parade at Hel Peninsula for the first time
Will you watch? It's the best military parade in the world quality, quantity and tech-wise
the French parade this year had only 9 tanks for example
Will you watch? It's the best military parade in the world quality, quantity and tech-wise
the French parade this year had only 9 tanks for example
14 / 1How frustrated do you think Putin must be, seeing tens of thousands of chinese tanks, APC and IFVs that are less than a decade old, just sitting in storage bases doing nothing. All while Russians are doing assaults in golf carts and electric scooters.
33 / 5why do bongaloids and other yuropoors care a lot about follow up shots while hunting (I see yuro channels go on and on about muh straight pull because it's faster) where as the American market really doesn't give a shit about follow up shots as shown by the fact pump action and semi auto hunting arms really never managed to take off enough to beat out single shots, lever actions and bolt actions.
213 / 111/ak/ Distasteful EditionAwful and devoid of ironic value as this anime happens to be, it introduced me to the concept of height over bore which really blew my adolescent mind away!
Previous: >>64103301
>Images (limit reached)
https://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player
>Simulate schizophrenic auditory hallucinations with the sound player plugin!
Previous: >>64103301
>Images (limit reached)
https://github.com/rcc11/4chan-soun
>Simulate schizophrenic auditory hallucinations with the sound player plugin!
299 / 62/k/ Westerns?Any recommendations on /k/ approved westerns?
I love old school gun nerd shit that isn't fuddlore or myth. Accurate technical discussions and scenes in movies on firearms of the time, seems to be a rarity in films but it does occur. I found an archive of some kind of gun newspaper/magazine from the late 1800s a few years ago that had lots of 1800s /k/ talk that wasn't just a exaggerated shakespearean sales pitch like most gun literature from the time. For the life of me I can't remember what it was called. Fascinating stuff learning about gun nerdery of the late 1800s
I love old school gun nerd shit that isn't fuddlore or myth. Accurate technical discussions and scenes in movies on firearms of the time, seems to be a rarity in films but it does occur. I found an archive of some kind of gun newspaper/magazine from the late 1800s a few years ago that had lots of 1800s /k/ talk that wasn't just a exaggerated shakespearean sales pitch like most gun literature from the time. For the life of me I can't remember what it was called. Fascinating stuff learning about gun nerdery of the late 1800s
83 / 6How do modern versions of the "heart attack gun" work? Obviously the ice dart prototype never went anywhere, but surely they have other, much fancier methods of covert assassination to use on American civilians by now.
31 / 4/brg/ battle rifle general # 451dog days edition
post wood (furniture)
post projects
post groups
post general tomfoolery
be a fren among frens
thread theme ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THlgU-8dMYg
As always;No Trips, No Traps, No Airsoft Previously on /brg/: >>63999858
post wood (furniture)
post projects
post groups
post general tomfoolery
be a fren among frens
thread theme ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THl
As always;No Trips, No Traps, No Airsoft Previously on /brg/: >>63999858
220 / 57Handgun General - /hg/ - #1641CZ and silver edition.
Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdf
Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik
Previous: >>64119056
Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdf
Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik
Previous: >>64119056
43 / 3Today I learned that regular .45 ACP ammo is inherently subsonic. Therefor, there is no need to purchase specialized ammo for suppressed weapons.
118 / 23Buy American, they said.Wanted to exchange my Chinese optic plate for a US made product. Bought from made in America/China bad company. Doesn’t fit my Glock. /k/oping hard rn
133 / 29/kg/ Knife GeneralThe sharpest general on /k/ - Swan Song Edition
"I want a knife recommendation."
Answer the following:
>Fixed or folding (or both (or neither))?
>Intended use/misuse?
>Blade length/girth?
>Local laws to ignore?
>You can afford this knife! Think of how much money you spend on food and water. Do you really need it? What about air conditioning? You can just turn it off and spend all that money on a knife! Do you really NEED air conditioning? Stop being a big baby, you can afford this knife!
Resources
>Freehand sharpening guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWU_qTp3DLM
>Primer on knife steels
https://knifesteelnerds.com/2021/10/19/knife-steels-rated-by-a-metallurgist-toughness-edge-retention-and-corrosion-resistance/
Previous thread: >>64031664
"I want a knife recommendation."
Answer the following:
>Fixed or folding (or both (or neither))?
>Intended use/misuse?
>Blade length/girth?
>Local laws to ignore?
>You can afford this knife! Think of how much money you spend on food and water. Do you really need it? What about air conditioning? You can just turn it off and spend all that money on a knife! Do you really NEED air conditioning? Stop being a big baby, you can afford this knife!
Resources
>Freehand sharpening guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWU
>Primer on knife steels
https://knifesteelnerds.com/2021/10
Previous thread: >>64031664
53 / 6With how static modern war is, why arent we seeing a renewed mass investment into artillery? Modern warfare is all about indirect fires. Massive tank pushes cannot work if unsupported.
Personally I think the funds for the M10 should be moved for a a cheap upgrade to retire the aging M109.
Personally I think the funds for the M10 should be moved for a a cheap upgrade to retire the aging M109.
59 / 19>you wake up as an HECU Marine in Black Mesa during the Ressonance Cascade
>the last gun you shot with, it's the gun issued to you
How fucked are you?
>the last gun you shot with, it's the gun issued to you
How fucked are you?
86 / 17About ~500 rounds into it. I think I can safely say now it won't blow up.
It still is a weird thing to shoot, knowing who made it and the laziness at times put into it. After a few changes in magazine design, I'm in a little of a hundred rounds without any real notable issue in feeding. Feel happy with the latest lifting cams I've made for the magazine.
It still is a weird thing to shoot, knowing who made it and the laziness at times put into it. After a few changes in magazine design, I'm in a little of a hundred rounds without any real notable issue in feeding. Feel happy with the latest lifting cams I've made for the magazine.
72 / 13Planetary DefensePic rel. The fate of humanity may soon lie upon us. How we gonna kill and sexual assault these ayy niggers /k/omandos? Earth MUST never fall over to the 8 tittied alien menace.
62 / 9If German had the Zero in WW2.Would they have btfo the RAF?
Both the Hurricane and the Spitfire are less nimble than the Zero.
Also the Zero could fly a lot longer distances than any german figther.
Both the Hurricane and the Spitfire are less nimble than the Zero.
Also the Zero could fly a lot longer distances than any german figther.
37 / 12/nvg/ — /No Views General/Humble Omni VII PVS-14 Edition
>griping
>drunken purchases
>inherent superiority complexes
>gaslighting yourself after a UFO sighting that “it was just refraction”
As no other general can scratch my itch: fuck it, we ball. So we won’t hit the bump limit, so what
>griping
>drunken purchases
>inherent superiority complexes
>gaslighting yourself after a UFO sighting that “it was just refraction”
As no other general can scratch my itch: fuck it, we ball. So we won’t hit the bump limit, so what
9 / 0FPC Vs. SUB2Kwhich is better in /k/'s experience?
i'd like to know from people who've shot/owned both guns
i'd like to know from people who've shot/owned both guns
18 / 8/mgg/ - meme guns generalShow me the best of the best meme guns out there. I want to see how creative the gun community is with firearms styling.
78 / 18What are the best 22 suppressors right now?Help me skip some homework. I want a 22 suppressor that is lightweight and compatible with a quick detach system, primarily for handgun use.
13 / 1Anyone know anything about these people? They seem to be expanding their influence. They've started up a chapter in Austin and other places as well as taking full advantage of that school voucher system to set up christian schools as fronts (imago dei in alamogordo by holloman afb for example). Anyone that was ever in will tell you there's nothing suspicious about for profit scam schools by bases but it was almost always reserved for day cares (the ones on bases opened up at around 7 or 8 which was obviously not going to work for a military schedule so there was always one off base that opened up at like 5 that charged exorbitant amounts of money because they knew they were going to get it as a result of that) or some "university of maryland online university college" bullshit money making scheme since the only reason anyone ever went to one of them was because having a degree or some sort automatically gave you a few bonus points on your enlisted performance reports. K-12 though is something new though and I can guarantee there's a pipeline back to that cult in redding somehow.
holloman is also a hardcore glowie base
INB4 "HURR DURR IT'S A WEAPONS BOARD WHAT'S GOING ON NEAR MILITARY BASES HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US GB2/ X SCHIZO" If that's actually the case on this board you people do a very good job of hiding it.
holloman is also a hardcore glowie base
INB4 "HURR DURR IT'S A WEAPONS BOARD WHAT'S GOING ON NEAR MILITARY BASES HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US GB2/ X SCHIZO" If that's actually the case on this board you people do a very good job of hiding it.
134 / 21>have guns with practically infinite ammo that never need to be reloaded
>only downside is they can overheat
>solve overheating problem by inventing guns that use thermal clips
>clips work exactly like ammo that you have to reload
What did the Council mean by this?
>only downside is they can overheat
>solve overheating problem by inventing guns that use thermal clips
>clips work exactly like ammo that you have to reload
What did the Council mean by this?
39 / 4Small Business Hate ThreadWhat do you call these kinds of companies that try to capitalize on /k/ trends that made it to reddit and le ironic vet humor?
36 / 9AUG thread for AUGust>want to buy A1 'police' black AUG
>they're $4000
should I?
post your augs for august btw
>they're $4000
should I?
post your augs for august btw
37 / 10/meg/ Military Enlistment GeneralMountain Warfare edition
LYING ABOUT MEDICAL HISTORY: GOOD (YMMV)
LYING ABOUT CRIMINAL HISTORY: BAD
>Resources:
>Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga (embed)
>Free ASVAB Practice Tests
www.asvabpracticetests.com/
>Fort Jackson Army Basic Training Guide (Nov. 2020)
pastebin.com/yg972vRE (embed) (Short version)
pastebin.com/53tsDj90 (embed) (40 page version)
>Special Forces Fitness Guide
SWCS SFAS guide
https://www.goarmysof.army.mil/Portals/100/Documents/USAJFKSWCS%20SF%20Prep%20Manual.pdf?ver=b5Y4cCheXzm4z44sO0JVtg%3D%3D
Stew Smith Fitness
https://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/sfart.htm#:~:text=PT%3A%20Every%20other%20day.,of%2040%20to%2050%20reps)
>www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/index.php
For all Army SF info.
>www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS
>bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-reserve/the-ultimate-military-pilot-career-path-part-1/
Airforce Pilot guide - just do AFROTC, political science major, 4.0 with athletics is auto-acceptance
>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke?
No, you'll get cancer and a prolapsed asshole. http://i.imgur.com/FZ0Q9q4.png (embed)
tl;dr: Two year long school with suicidal furries as your co-workers
>Info on sf86
www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf
>How to get way overqualified physically for BMT/BCT when starting from nothing
pastebin.com/yGzadpNZ (embed)
>How can I get more college credits while I'm in without signing up for classes
CLEP/DSST information:
https://www.dantes.mil/Education-Programs/Get-College-Credit-for-What-You-Know/
>What is MHS GENESIS?
www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/MHS-Transformation/MHS-GENESIS
calmed.tricare.mil/Getting-Care/MHS-GENESIS-Patient-Portal
>Do you go to Airborne before RASP with an option 40 contract?
No, stop asking.
LYING ABOUT MEDICAL HISTORY: GOOD (YMMV)
LYING ABOUT CRIMINAL HISTORY: BAD
>Resources:
>Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga (embed)
>Free ASVAB Practice Tests
www.asvabpracticetests.com/
>Fort Jackson Army Basic Training Guide (Nov. 2020)
pastebin.com/yg972vRE (embed) (Short version)
pastebin.com/53tsDj90 (embed) (40 page version)
>Special Forces Fitness Guide
SWCS SFAS guide
https://www.goarmysof.army.mil/Port
Stew Smith Fitness
https://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages
>www.professionalsoldiers.com/forum
For all Army SF info.
>www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS
>bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-
Airforce Pilot guide - just do AFROTC, political science major, 4.0 with athletics is auto-acceptance
>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke?
No, you'll get cancer and a prolapsed asshole. http://i.imgur.com/FZ0Q9q4.png (embed)
tl;dr: Two year long school with suicidal furries as your co-workers
>Info on sf86
www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf
>How to get way overqualified physically for BMT/BCT when starting from nothing
pastebin.com/yGzadpNZ (embed)
>How can I get more college credits while I'm in without signing up for classes
CLEP/DSST information:
https://www.dantes.mil/Education-Pr
>What is MHS GENESIS?
www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topi
calmed.tricare.mil/Getting-Care/MHS
>Do you go to Airborne before RASP with an option 40 contract?
No, stop asking.
20 / 1Going into armyI have a couple of options in front of me, but I'm not sure what to pick.
>Be a tank crewman
>Be a mechanized infantry
>Be an anti-tank soldier
>Be a mechanized combat engineer
>Be a recon soldier
>Be a sniper
>Be MP
Granted I'm not sure what they'll decide for me, but I can influence the choice.
>Be a tank crewman
>Be a mechanized infantry
>Be an anti-tank soldier
>Be a mechanized combat engineer
>Be a recon soldier
>Be a sniper
>Be MP
Granted I'm not sure what they'll decide for me, but I can influence the choice.
50 / 7Ukrainians are the best snipers in the world. They just broke the record for longest sniper kill.
4000m!!!!
4000m!!!!
95 / 9>your armor is useless because it has weakpoints
bitch, your whole body is a weakpoint without armor
why are people always subscribed to the nirvana fallacy, where if something isnt 100% effective then its bad?
bitch, your whole body is a weakpoint without armor
why are people always subscribed to the nirvana fallacy, where if something isnt 100% effective then its bad?
156 / 38/prg/ - Precision Rifle GeneralBlue sky edition. Discuss optics, rifles, cartridges, shooting tips, etc.
>previous thread
>>63964996
>previous thread
>>63964996
23 / 2Thoughts about using AR glasses inside MBTs in order to achieve proper 360° situational awareness?
238 / 50Fokker DR140k+ feet in a triplane, imagine that.
Flying a Fokker Dr1 must have been the greatest experience of your life, if you went high enough you could see the curvature of the earth before you ran out of oxygen.
Flying a Fokker Dr1 must have been the greatest experience of your life, if you went high enough you could see the curvature of the earth before you ran out of oxygen.
165 / 34ITT: /k/ defends 10050 Cielo Drive(You) wake up in the guest house of Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate's home in the early morning hours of August 9, 1969 (idk why you're there, maybe Tate and her friends invited you over for an orgy or something lmao). (You) look out your window just in time to see members of the Manson family cutting the telephone line and blocking off the only exit with a getaway car. The heavily pregnant Sharon rushes in, begging (You) to save her from the crazed hippies coming up the hill. Of the six people present, (You) are the only one with any experience with weapons, because rich celebrities are retarded, so it's up to (You) to save the day.
The Rules:
>you get one firearm of your choice that would've been legally available on the civilian market in the United States in 1969 (Smith & Wesson Model 10s and M1 Garands - yes, AK-47s and Mini-14s - no)
>you have 20 rounds of ammunition
>you can improvise additional weapons from household items
>you can set up barricades using furniture and other household items
>Sharon and the others will fight alongside you if they're appropriately armed, but they'll probably suck and get themselves killed in the process
>you have to kill every Manson Family member present, including Linda Kasabian
>whatever happens, Sharon and her unborn child must survive, if they don't, she won't be able to have gratitude sex with you and Roman Polanski will drug and rape Samantha Gailey in the future
>absolutely no flamethrowers (Molotov cocktails are acceptable though)
The Rules:
>you get one firearm of your choice that would've been legally available on the civilian market in the United States in 1969 (Smith & Wesson Model 10s and M1 Garands - yes, AK-47s and Mini-14s - no)
>you have 20 rounds of ammunition
>you can improvise additional weapons from household items
>you can set up barricades using furniture and other household items
>Sharon and the others will fight alongside you if they're appropriately armed, but they'll probably suck and get themselves killed in the process
>you have to kill every Manson Family member present, including Linda Kasabian
>whatever happens, Sharon and her unborn child must survive, if they don't, she won't be able to have gratitude sex with you and Roman Polanski will drug and rape Samantha Gailey in the future
>absolutely no flamethrowers (Molotov cocktails are acceptable though)
97 / 14Do military training missions in overseas shitholes by western armies ever accomplish anything?
56 / 11The Iraqi Ambush America Never Talks About>Background:
>The video first sets the stage with Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait in August 1990, which led to the formation of a massive US-led coalition. The coalition launched a devastating air campaign against Iraq in January 1991, quickly crippling the Iraqi Air Force by destroying communication hubs, ground control stations, and aircraft on the ground. In a desperate move, Saddam ordered his surviving pilots to fly their jets to neighboring Iran for safety. To counter this, the US established an aerial blockade, a "virtual wall" of F-15 Eagle fighter patrols, along the Iraqi-Iranian border.
>The Battle:
>Saddam Hussein devised a plan to break through this blockade using his most capable interceptor, the aging but incredibly fast Soviet-made MiG-25 Foxbat. The plan was to lure a pair of American F-15s into a pincer ambush.
>The Combatants: Two Iraqi MiG-25s engaged two US Air Force F-15C Eagles.
>The Engagement: The Iraqi jets were vectored to intercept the American patrol. The F-15s, alerted by an AWACS plane, turned to engage. During the ensuing dogfight, an Iraqi MiG-25 fired an R-40 missile that detonated near one of the F-15s, causing significant damage to its left engine.
>Challenges: The American pilots faced multiple missile malfunctions, with several of their AIM-7 Sparrow missiles failing to launch or track properly.
>Outcome: Despite the F-15s' technological superiority, both Iraqi MiG-25s managed to disengage and return to base safely. The damaged F-15 also made it back. Although the Iraqis claimed a victory for damaging a superior fighter and surviving, this marked the last significant air-to-air combat for the Iraqi Air Force in the war. The battle highlighted how even an outdated aircraft, with the right strategy and a bit of luck, could challenge a much more advanced opponent.
The MiG-25's were no joke, had they been equipped with lookdown radars like the MiG-31's, those Eagles would have bitten the dust: https://youtu.be/5RtwFbSeV5Y?t=292
>The video first sets the stage with Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait in August 1990, which led to the formation of a massive US-led coalition. The coalition launched a devastating air campaign against Iraq in January 1991, quickly crippling the Iraqi Air Force by destroying communication hubs, ground control stations, and aircraft on the ground. In a desperate move, Saddam ordered his surviving pilots to fly their jets to neighboring Iran for safety. To counter this, the US established an aerial blockade, a "virtual wall" of F-15 Eagle fighter patrols, along the Iraqi-Iranian border.
>The Battle:
>Saddam Hussein devised a plan to break through this blockade using his most capable interceptor, the aging but incredibly fast Soviet-made MiG-25 Foxbat. The plan was to lure a pair of American F-15s into a pincer ambush.
>The Combatants: Two Iraqi MiG-25s engaged two US Air Force F-15C Eagles.
>The Engagement: The Iraqi jets were vectored to intercept the American patrol. The F-15s, alerted by an AWACS plane, turned to engage. During the ensuing dogfight, an Iraqi MiG-25 fired an R-40 missile that detonated near one of the F-15s, causing significant damage to its left engine.
>Challenges: The American pilots faced multiple missile malfunctions, with several of their AIM-7 Sparrow missiles failing to launch or track properly.
>Outcome: Despite the F-15s' technological superiority, both Iraqi MiG-25s managed to disengage and return to base safely. The damaged F-15 also made it back. Although the Iraqis claimed a victory for damaging a superior fighter and surviving, this marked the last significant air-to-air combat for the Iraqi Air Force in the war. The battle highlighted how even an outdated aircraft, with the right strategy and a bit of luck, could challenge a much more advanced opponent.
The MiG-25's were no joke, had they been equipped with lookdown radars like the MiG-31's, those Eagles would have bitten the dust: https://youtu.be/5RtwFbSeV5Y?t=292
72 / 5Which firearms generate the most seethe?Among those that are or were widely used and successful. No duds, failures, or firearms that are outright unsafe.
125 / 26What will human grunts do on the battlefield when they're surpassed by humanoid robots in every metric?
74 / 6F-16V $3.8 Billion Contract Signed By Poland>The Polish Ministry of Defense has signed a $3.8 billion contract to upgrade the country’s 48 F-16C/D Block 52+ Viper fighters to the F-16V configuration. Poland’s Block 52+ jets are already some of the most advanced F-16s in Europe. This is the latest example of a staggering Polish defense spending spree that has now been going on for years, as the country works to modernize its entire armed forces, with a particular eye toward meeting threats from Russia.
https://www.twz.com/air/polands-f-16s-are-about-to-become-more-potent
https://www.twz.com/air/polands-f-1
34 / 3Cheap MREs'Hey K
I was watching MRE food reviews when I started wondering if it's possible to find cheap stash of MREs and live (or whatever comes close to it) off of them for a while, like a prepped food type of situation
I was watching MRE food reviews when I started wondering if it's possible to find cheap stash of MREs and live (or whatever comes close to it) off of them for a while, like a prepped food type of situation
5 / 1>3000km range
>1000kg payload
>made in ukraine
>in mass production right now
Packed up my tools for my raw power move
>1000kg payload
>made in ukraine
>in mass production right now
Packed up my tools for my raw power move
3 / 0C-390. Is this really a good military airplane?I find hard to believe this is any good because it was made in hueland.
I bet the og US version of the C-130, not the monkey export version, is better in every metric.
I bet the og US version of the C-130, not the monkey export version, is better in every metric.
79 / 17The atomic bomb is finished exactly one year earlierLet's assume that the Einstein–Szilard letter is sent in August, 1938 instead of August, 1939. As a result, work on the atomic bomb project starts a year prior to the start of World War II. Let's also assume that work on the Manhattan Project and WWII as a whole otherwise proceed exactly as they originally did. The Trinity Test goes off without a hitch shortly after D-Day and by August, 1944, Little Boy and Fat Man are ready for use against Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan.
Where and how should the Allies employ the first atomic bombs in this scenario? Drop one on Berlin in an attempt to decapitate the leadership of the Third Reich? Use it in direct support of the Allies' breakout from Normandy? Drop it on an unsuspecting Japanese city as the opening act of the air campaign against the Home Islands? Or use the two bombs in separate theatres to hit show the Axis Powers the length of America's reach?
Where and how should the Allies employ the first atomic bombs in this scenario? Drop one on Berlin in an attempt to decapitate the leadership of the Third Reich? Use it in direct support of the Allies' breakout from Normandy? Drop it on an unsuspecting Japanese city as the opening act of the air campaign against the Home Islands? Or use the two bombs in separate theatres to hit show the Axis Powers the length of America's reach?
317 / 137/msg/ - Military Surplus GeneralFunny Desert Squiggles Edition
Post whatever you want, just hate boomers.
Thread Question: Tell us the story of the Surp that got away.
Post whatever you want, just hate boomers.
Thread Question: Tell us the story of the Surp that got away.
36 / 11With F-5s being retired by RoCAF and RoKAF as well as countries keeping them on storage, is it a good idea to upgrade them sensibly before giving them to Ukraine?
It's a supersonic jet capable of launching sidewinder, Amraam/Derby and paveway/JDAM, it 's cheap, definitely cheaper to run than F-16 (let alone Mirage 2000) and some F-5E version are even more advanced than whatever third hand F-16 that Ukraine got rn
It's a supersonic jet capable of launching sidewinder, Amraam/Derby and paveway/JDAM, it 's cheap, definitely cheaper to run than F-16 (let alone Mirage 2000) and some F-5E version are even more advanced than whatever third hand F-16 that Ukraine got rn
5 / 1Howdy where is the best place to find/ get a swordYo im trying to get a sword not some cheap Amazon crap that will break in one sec if you actually hit it against something i would like a real sword, I have been looking around some flea, thrift and antique stores looking for one but haven't found anything like that any place where i can find some real stuff and not cheap garbadge and personal if that makes sence
30 / 3best magnification>1x
>2x
>3x
>4x
>5x
>6x
which is the best magnification, /k/?
i hear 3x to 4x is the generally accepted consensus, yet whats yours personally?
>2x
>3x
>4x
>5x
>6x
which is the best magnification, /k/?
i hear 3x to 4x is the generally accepted consensus, yet whats yours personally?
248 / 39World Military RouletteThe Gods are bored. They are placing you in command of a random military. Spin the wheel, pursue your fate.
>Our Glorious Military
https://random.country
>Our Best Weapon
https://google.com/search?q=wikipedia+list+of+equipment+COUNTRY
>Our Arch Nemesis
eg. North Torbia
https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/DATE/437d3e350241798be91b40b4c57b5ed1
>Our Grand 5-Year Plan
How we will crush our enemies, stdbu & htlotw. If you want to do a budget, use a standard % of GDP or explain how you're overhauling the economy.
>Say Something Nice About Our Country
eg. there are no snakes
it only rains half the year
beheadings are way down
IF you get your own country, re-roll. IF you don't have something NICE to say, The Gods will ragdoll your body from the highest peak. Play their game now!
>Our Glorious Military
https://random.country
>Our Best Weapon
https://google.com/search?q=wikiped
>Our Arch Nemesis
eg. North Torbia
https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/DATE/4
>Our Grand 5-Year Plan
How we will crush our enemies, stdbu & htlotw. If you want to do a budget, use a standard % of GDP or explain how you're overhauling the economy.
>Say Something Nice About Our Country
eg. there are no snakes
it only rains half the year
beheadings are way down
IF you get your own country, re-roll. IF you don't have something NICE to say, The Gods will ragdoll your body from the highest peak. Play their game now!
10 / 1Hugecock69.Hugecock69 here, today we got your mom. *Fucks her* hehe she functions well. Let's see if she can hit the gong.
>Makes your mom run out to the gong and fucks her with his hugecock.
Hehehe.
>Makes your mom run out to the gong and fucks her with his hugecock.
Hehehe.
6 / 3Patch ThreadTrade, create, and sell your patches!
Post good design ideas and maybe a patch store will make them.
>Previous Thread
>>63986415
>Where can I buy that sweet patch/ find patches?
https://patchfeed.com/patch-seller-list/
>Classic Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD (2016)
>other lists
https://hackmd.io/@Patchboi/PatchThread (2021)
https://hackmd.io/@chef5estrela/ByQJ8OFtn (2023)
Post good design ideas and maybe a patch store will make them.
>Previous Thread
>>63986415
>Where can I buy that sweet patch/ find patches?
https://patchfeed.com/patch-seller-
>Classic Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD (2016)
>other lists
https://hackmd.io/@Patchboi/PatchTh
https://hackmd.io/@chef5estrela/ByQ
10 / 0My local pawn shop selling 320 for 320So with huge the sig fiasco happening my pawn shop has seen an increase of them in their inventory. Now I heard the news about them, but I don't think I should be worried because I don't carry with one In chamber(I know call me retarded), but yeah anyways what do you guys think? good buy?
167 / 145Some photos from the National Palace Museum in TaipeiWith the army museum currently not existing this would appear to be the main /k/ related museum in Taipei at the moment. It's main focus seems to be "stuff the Kuomintang brought along from the Forbidden City when they left for Taiwan", and as such what we'll be seeing here is mostly a lot of bronze and a bit of jade.
First out a bronze ge "daggeraxe", mounted for display much like it would have been mounted to a wooden pole originally: the tang passes through and then the holes are sued to lash it in place. These appear to have been mostly used as full sized polearms, though IIRC there's some old artwork of them being fitted on short poles for single handed use too. Late Western Zhou to early Spring and Autumn period (877-671 BC).
First out a bronze ge "daggeraxe", mounted for display much like it would have been mounted to a wooden pole originally: the tang passes through and then the holes are sued to lash it in place. These appear to have been mostly used as full sized polearms, though IIRC there's some old artwork of them being fitted on short poles for single handed use too. Late Western Zhou to early Spring and Autumn period (877-671 BC).
9 / 1Isn't a dumb design choice to make the entire upper part slide back and forth?Everytime the pistol does it, you can lose track of your sight.
Wouldn't be far better to create a fixed point to mount the sight. And only a tiny part of the gun just enough for you to rack the gun moved. It could be something just like the lever on the AR-15.
Wouldn't be far better to create a fixed point to mount the sight. And only a tiny part of the gun just enough for you to rack the gun moved. It could be something just like the lever on the AR-15.
9 / 3Hi, /k/ I'd like your help.
I'm doing a conversion on the baneblade from 40k upgunning it with the E-100 cannon and i would like additional recommendations for other parts.
I'm thinking..
E-100 cannon
>M60A2 IR lamp
>Sheridan MG shield and cargo cage.
What else?
I'm doing a conversion on the baneblade from 40k upgunning it with the E-100 cannon and i would like additional recommendations for other parts.
I'm thinking..
E-100 cannon
>M60A2 IR lamp
>Sheridan MG shield and cargo cage.
What else?
53 / 8QTDDTOTI finally got my first optic and I want to head to the range to zero it. Can someone explain how to calculate MOA and how people always know how many clicks to turn for their elevation and windage?
281 / 75/sgg/Shotgun General. Discuss all things shotgun.
(First time starting a thread, so PLZ be nice ^^)
To start things off, I need recommendations for a light switch to mount on the left side of the VOA pump for the Mossberg 590. The width is about 0.6" wide and sort of angled. Should I go for a flat or angled/raised switch?
(First time starting a thread, so PLZ be nice ^^)
To start things off, I need recommendations for a light switch to mount on the left side of the VOA pump for the Mossberg 590. The width is about 0.6" wide and sort of angled. Should I go for a flat or angled/raised switch?
123 / 30A question about glider troopsWere they required to be jump-qualified like their parachutist counterparts? I'm assuming that they still had to be a cut above regular infantry and receive special training on loading and unloading gliders, but they also trained in parachuting as a redundancy (i.e. a case where you might have enough planes, but not enough gliders and can press the glider troops into the role)?
Also post glider troops I guess.
Also post glider troops I guess.
16 / 3Alien InvasionIf aliens genuinely invaded earth tomorrow and it was clear they were extremely strong but not unbeatable, do you think humanity would actually come together to stop the threat, or would you still have Russians and Ukrainians fighting while the world burns around them?
190 / 56/frtssg/ - Forced Reset Trigger & Super Safety GeneralGot me a sweet filly to super safterize, if you know what I mean, right /k/bois? Howabouts would a nice bearded gentleman like myself go ahoots of this? -edition
News:
>Atrius did round 2 of orders for the Super Selektors
Is it legal? Yes! Unless you live in a cuck state.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/rare-breed-triggers’-frt-15s-and-wide-open-triggers-wots-return
Distributors:
https://www.activesafetydesigns.com
https://atrius.dev
https://deeznutztactical.com
https://www.deltateamtactical.com
https://www.fittyactual.com
https://greymarketresearch.net
https://hoffmantactical.com
https://rarebreedtriggers.com
https://redactedarmsllc.com
https://www.tacswap.com
You've heard of FRTs, but what's a "super safety"?
>like an FRT, but a different mechanism (the safety)
>cheaper than an FRT
>$90-$120 for full drop-in kit
>3D printable or CNC (recommend stainless/4140)
>most are 3 position cross-bolt safety
>left is safe, right is semi, middle is fully semi-automic
>Atrius now shipping the only super safety that operates like a normal AR safety selector
How it works:
https://youtu.be/KIxsnh2fFTo [Embed] [Embed]
To make an AR-15 super safe you'll need:
>M16 style/"full auto" bolt carrier group
>H3 or H2 buffer weight (will do 600-750 rpm of 5.56)
>"low shelf" lower receiver
>SS
>any AR trigger so long as you give it an SS cut
Last thread: >>64027045
News:
>Atrius did round 2 of orders for the Super Selektors
Is it legal? Yes! Unless you live in a cuck state.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/rare-b
Distributors:
https://www.activesafetydesigns.com
https://atrius.dev
https://deeznutztactical.com
https://www.deltateamtactical.com
https://www.fittyactual.com
https://greymarketresearch.net
https://hoffmantactical.com
https://rarebreedtriggers.com
https://redactedarmsllc.com
https://www.tacswap.com
You've heard of FRTs, but what's a "super safety"?
>like an FRT, but a different mechanism (the safety)
>cheaper than an FRT
>$90-$120 for full drop-in kit
>3D printable or CNC (recommend stainless/4140)
>most are 3 position cross-bolt safety
>left is safe, right is semi, middle is fully semi-automic
>Atrius now shipping the only super safety that operates like a normal AR safety selector
How it works:
https://youtu.be/KIxsnh2fFTo [Embed] [Embed]
To make an AR-15 super safe you'll need:
>M16 style/"full auto" bolt carrier group
>H3 or H2 buffer weight (will do 600-750 rpm of 5.56)
>"low shelf" lower receiver
>SS
>any AR trigger so long as you give it an SS cut
Last thread: >>64027045
183 / 38What happened to the wiki for /k/? I remember there buying guides on which guns or knives to buy based on your budget and use case.
Is there a backup of it anywhere?
Is there a backup of it anywhere?
118 / 25Can someone explain to a gun noob why everyone is so obsessed with this? It's just a mass produced bolt action rifle. Don't tell me it's got "sovl".
160 / 28Air Force Covering Up For SigKek. We all knew this shit was going to happen.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/08/08/air-force-announces-arrest-related-firearm-death-of-airman-prompted-m18-probe.html?amp
https://www.military.com/daily-news
18 / 3Why didnt two handed warhammers(the one with the hammer, spike and pointy end) become more popular to counter armor?
172 / 15Why did it take so long for short barrels and intermediate calibres to become popular?>average Napoleonic War era soldier was a 5'5" gigamanlet
>let's give him a 5 foot long musket with a 20" bayonet
Who the fuck thought this was a reasonable idea?
>average WW1/WW2 soldier was still 5'5"
>let's give him a bolt action rifle with a 25" barrel and a 17" bayonet
How the fuck did these cunts even aim a rifle which was longer than them? It's not like they were doing volley fire in square formations, individual marksmanship and manoeuvre warfare was a requirement in all of the major campaigns
>average height soldier during the Cold War is still only 5'7"
>let's give him a FAL with a 21" barrel
>let's give him a 5 foot long musket with a 20" bayonet
Who the fuck thought this was a reasonable idea?
>average WW1/WW2 soldier was still 5'5"
>let's give him a bolt action rifle with a 25" barrel and a 17" bayonet
How the fuck did these cunts even aim a rifle which was longer than them? It's not like they were doing volley fire in square formations, individual marksmanship and manoeuvre warfare was a requirement in all of the major campaigns
>average height soldier during the Cold War is still only 5'7"
>let's give him a FAL with a 21" barrel
114 / 11Could Afghanistan have been won with new technology? I think so. I reckon an FPV drone squad in every FOB and PB would be the hard counter to the IED problem. Suddenly you can "patrol" day and night with drones and if you see some cunt digging in an IED the response can be instantantaneous.
That and more dogs I reckon. I was shocked to find out that for a long time, there were only 4 bomb sniffing dogs in Helmand. And not more than another 10 in the whole country. This in a country that was conservatively estimated to have 10,000 IEDs buried in it's soil at one time. That's not enough dogs. You need trained bomb sniffing dogs organic to every platoon.
Once you can solve the IED problem you can stabilise and have the breathing space to begin rooting out the corrupt governors, drug barons, the police boy-rapers and all the other shit that Afghanistan had that could never be dealt with because we were fighting the insurgency full time.
The technology to win in Afghanistan was late by a decade and it's infuriating.
That and more dogs I reckon. I was shocked to find out that for a long time, there were only 4 bomb sniffing dogs in Helmand. And not more than another 10 in the whole country. This in a country that was conservatively estimated to have 10,000 IEDs buried in it's soil at one time. That's not enough dogs. You need trained bomb sniffing dogs organic to every platoon.
Once you can solve the IED problem you can stabilise and have the breathing space to begin rooting out the corrupt governors, drug barons, the police boy-rapers and all the other shit that Afghanistan had that could never be dealt with because we were fighting the insurgency full time.
The technology to win in Afghanistan was late by a decade and it's infuriating.
43 / 13Had the Russian VDV's BMDs been equipped with APS systems, how would their advance on Kyiv have differed during the initial phase of the SMO?
10 / 0ISR and irregular enemyIn 2002, during Operation Anaconda, aerial and satellite reconnaissance failed to detect any firing positions or concentrations of enemy personnel in the Shah-i-Kot Valley until two Delta Force and one DEVGRU reconnaissance teams, commanded by Pete Blaber, went in and discovered that the entire area was filled with insurgents in concealed positions. Similarly, in 2000, after the Russians retook Grozny for the second time, they did not realize that a large portion of the city’s defenders had broken through the encirclement and linked up with even more numerous and capable units. My question is: can a regular army pull this off ?
245 / 40What’s the best tactic to break free of a chokehold. Assume you’re unarmed and you were caught completely by surprise by the attacker.
5 / 0>American WWII Ships: Catfish, Shark, Carp
>British WWII Ships: Endeavor, Forthright, Magnificent
>Italian WWII Ships: Vittori Veneto, Sebastiano Cabato, Giuseppe Miraglia
>German WWII Ships: U-11, U-73, U-109
>Japanese WWII Ships: I-22, I-39, I-81
>Russian WWII Shipe: S-31, S-72, S-99
What causes the difference?
>British WWII Ships: Endeavor, Forthright, Magnificent
>Italian WWII Ships: Vittori Veneto, Sebastiano Cabato, Giuseppe Miraglia
>German WWII Ships: U-11, U-73, U-109
>Japanese WWII Ships: I-22, I-39, I-81
>Russian WWII Shipe: S-31, S-72, S-99
What causes the difference?
82 / 19I got into guns and always had him pose with them.
Now he’s dead (at 19) and I can’t get back into guns when they just made me think of him?
How do you get over this?
Now he’s dead (at 19) and I can’t get back into guns when they just made me think of him?
How do you get over this?
65 / 13Is it wrong / unethical to weaponize animals? What are the craziest examples you can think of from history? Didn't the commies try to train psychic dolphin supersoldiers or some shit like that?
15 / 2Found something in a forestI've stumbled upon a weird looking thing in a forest in Poland. It's in an area where technically germans had their defense lines built against the soviets. Can someone identify what it is?
53 / 4So who is the premier manufacturer of boats?
For Tanks we have up and coming Korea. Leopard tanks were the main tank exports but has been overtaken by the K2.
For planes its always America.
What about boats? Is it Germany? Sweden? Korea? Or is it now Japan?
For Tanks we have up and coming Korea. Leopard tanks were the main tank exports but has been overtaken by the K2.
For planes its always America.
What about boats? Is it Germany? Sweden? Korea? Or is it now Japan?
5 / 0italy says "so long" to the stinger MANPADSand hello to the new Fulgur VSHORAD, both carriable and mounted. expected to be deployed in 2028.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2025/exclusive-new-fulgur-portable-air-defense-missile-to-equip-italian-army-replacing-u-s-stinger-by-2028
https://www.armyrecognition.com/new
78 / 8New Taiwanese naval droneshttps://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2025/08/taiwans-new-naval-drones-could-strike-any-chinese-invasion/
12 / 1Are these less-lethal .68 caliber launchers an acceptable purchase for self-defense if you live in a noguns city?
15 / 6How do yu had redundacy agaisnt mobility kills?
Like for sensors and guns its easy but for mobility how do you that?
Like for sensors and guns its easy but for mobility how do you that?
48 / 4I'm in the process of selling all my guns except for my Heritage Rough Rider and my FEG FP9, since having a large arsenal of weapons is not befitting of a peaceful Christian man (having a large amount of any material object isn't befitting of a Christian man at all desu). Am I better off going to my local gun store and selling outright, selling on consignment, or trying my luck on gunbroker?
59 / 1G23 or 1911Hey /k/. Wanted to get a G23 as a first gun but the guys at my local LGS said to get a 1911 in .38 Super on the basis that the 23 was ''unreliable horseshit''. Can any anons give me input on this? Thanks
213 / 30Drones are now successfully sinking ships on Caspian Sea.
>but what’s if it’s Neptune
No, because all Neptunes are under control of Navy of Ukraine and they were not credited with sinking of that ship
>but what’s if it’s Neptune
No, because all Neptunes are under control of Navy of Ukraine and they were not credited with sinking of that ship
84 / 14HK USP>Here is your polymer 9mm, bro. That will be $1600 plus tax.
Why has HK lowered the price on all their handguns but the USP and Mark 23?
Why has HK lowered the price on all their handguns but the USP and Mark 23?
38 / 810 days in the gladesPropose, you are dropped off in the middle of the everglades for ten days. You are surrounded by swamp and even if you decided to hoof it out, it would take you at least ten days. At the end of the ten days you get airlifted out. You are allowed to bring one gun, with as much ammo as you need, to get thru the ten days. What gun and why?
38 / 6Why are some gun owners like this?>Conceal carry PSA rock in 5.7
>Talking to coworkers
>Everyone's generally impressed because it's a nice gun that's cheap
>One guy starts comparing his compact Glock to my 5.7
>Tells me about how much easier to conceal it is
>Says some shit like "I could see your 5.7 but you couldn't see my Glock"
>Tells me 9mm jhp is deadlier than my 5.7
>Tells me 5.7 is just going to over penetrate so I can't fire as freely
>Tells me since I've got FMJ it won't expand on impact, and all it takes to stop a man dead in his tracks is a single round of 9mm JHP
>Tell him "Ah well, I just like 5.7 cause it's lower recoil and more rounds, I just think it's neat overall"
>Also told me that the grain of the round would cause more damage, and since his rounds are heavier they're deadlier
>Guy says something like "Even then 9mm is more abundant than 5.7, what're you gonna do if you can't find 5.7"
>Tell him I'll just buy 45 or 9mm for my other pistols
Entire interaction felt like a one sided dick measuring contest.
I just wanna carry my spacegat in peace.
>Talking to coworkers
>Everyone's generally impressed because it's a nice gun that's cheap
>One guy starts comparing his compact Glock to my 5.7
>Tells me about how much easier to conceal it is
>Says some shit like "I could see your 5.7 but you couldn't see my Glock"
>Tells me 9mm jhp is deadlier than my 5.7
>Tells me 5.7 is just going to over penetrate so I can't fire as freely
>Tells me since I've got FMJ it won't expand on impact, and all it takes to stop a man dead in his tracks is a single round of 9mm JHP
>Tell him "Ah well, I just like 5.7 cause it's lower recoil and more rounds, I just think it's neat overall"
>Also told me that the grain of the round would cause more damage, and since his rounds are heavier they're deadlier
>Guy says something like "Even then 9mm is more abundant than 5.7, what're you gonna do if you can't find 5.7"
>Tell him I'll just buy 45 or 9mm for my other pistols
Entire interaction felt like a one sided dick measuring contest.
I just wanna carry my spacegat in peace.
102 / 25300 blackout is a gigantic meme.Supersonic 300blk is just 7.62x39 for the AR, but worse.
>but it was actually made for subsonic loads out of a short barrel!!
Even if we're comparing apples to apples, subsonic 300blk is literally worse than 9mm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnedpQ4xTIo
But 9mm isn't limited in platform like 300blk. There are a shitload of different 9mm firearms in a shitload of different packages for different needs.
>but it was actually made for longer distances!! You can change from subs to supers if you need to!!
So you can do 2 things shittily. Amazing.
It's a poor attempt to make the AR do everything. It's not even good for hunting.
>but it was actually made for subsonic loads out of a short barrel!!
Even if we're comparing apples to apples, subsonic 300blk is literally worse than 9mm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bne
But 9mm isn't limited in platform like 300blk. There are a shitload of different 9mm firearms in a shitload of different packages for different needs.
>but it was actually made for longer distances!! You can change from subs to supers if you need to!!
So you can do 2 things shittily. Amazing.
It's a poor attempt to make the AR do everything. It's not even good for hunting.